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== Other ==
== Other ==
=== Links to Wikipedia articles in the text ===
The original contains a link to English Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License license] (piped to display the text "free license", i the section "Preamble". This strikes me as funny since this wiki contains a page [[licenses]]; it is linked in the summary, piped as "free licenses". If the text will contain links to English Wikipedia - what do we do with those when translating the text? Do we keep the link to enwiki, do we replace it with a link to the corresponding article on svwiki? If this article does not exist, do we just leave the link out? The first alternative means we provide English speaking but not Swedish speaking information, and the translation exists mainly for those who are not good in English. (In this case, there is not corresponding article but I think the problem should be discussed on a more general level.) An article on svwiki might be informative and contain roughly the same info as the one on enwiki, but maybe not - so the second alternative is a probably loss in information, and maybe even adding bad information. The last alternative is a simple loss of information.  
The original contains a link to English Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License license] (piped to display the text "free license", i the section "Preamble". This strikes me as funny since this wiki contains a page [[licenses]]; it is linked in the summary, piped as "free licenses". If the text will contain links to English Wikipedia - what do we do with those when translating the text? Do we keep the link to enwiki, do we replace it with a link to the corresponding article on svwiki? If this article does not exist, do we just leave the link out? The first alternative means we provide English speaking but not Swedish speaking information, and the translation exists mainly for those who are not good in English. (In this case, there is not corresponding article but I think the problem should be discussed on a more general level.) An article on svwiki might be informative and contain roughly the same info as the one on enwiki, but maybe not - so the second alternative is a probably loss in information, and maybe even adding bad information. The last alternative is a simple loss of information.  


A related question: are we as translators free to add links to Wikipedia articles to explain concepts in the text that they feel needs explaining? What concepts needs an explanation might well vary between languages. In this case, one translator added a link to the article [http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft copyleft] on Swedish Wikipedia, in the section "Permissible restrictions". If we should not add links in this way - could concepts like copyleft be explained on this wiki? // [[User:Habj|habj]] 02:41, 24 February 2007 (CET)
A related question: are we as translators free to add links to Wikipedia articles to explain concepts in the text that they feel needs explaining? What concepts needs an explanation might well vary between languages. In this case, one translator added a link to the article [http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft copyleft] on Swedish Wikipedia, in the section "Permissible restrictions". If we should not add links in this way - could concepts like copyleft be explained on this wiki? // [[User:Habj|habj]] 02:41, 24 February 2007 (CET)

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This is a draft of a page that I suggest we create in the main namespace. It is meant to be a forum for translators to ask for clarifications about the text they are translating. Having that on a separate page means that translators to other languages can reuse the information, and actually in some cases it might even become valuable feedback to the people composing the actual definition?

Ideally, the questions in each section should probably be ordered by when the terms and sentences that are discussed appear in the text. Some questions might be more general, I created an "Other" section for those at the bottom.

We should probably add a couple of questions so people can see how it is supposed to work.

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Summary

Preamble

Identifying Free Cultural Works

Defining Free Culture Licenses

Essential freedoms

Permissible restrictions

Defining Free Cultural Works

Further reading

Versioning

A minor release is made when the text is modified in ways which do not have an impact on the scope of existing or hypothetical licenses covered by this definition

Will there be hypothetical licenses covered by the definition and are there any examples of situations when that would happen? The translation of "hypothetical" seems obvious, but to be sure I have to ask. //StefanB 22:27, 23 February 2007 (CET)

Other

The original contains a link to English Wikipedia, license (piped to display the text "free license", i the section "Preamble". This strikes me as funny since this wiki contains a page licenses; it is linked in the summary, piped as "free licenses". If the text will contain links to English Wikipedia - what do we do with those when translating the text? Do we keep the link to enwiki, do we replace it with a link to the corresponding article on svwiki? If this article does not exist, do we just leave the link out? The first alternative means we provide English speaking but not Swedish speaking information, and the translation exists mainly for those who are not good in English. (In this case, there is not corresponding article but I think the problem should be discussed on a more general level.) An article on svwiki might be informative and contain roughly the same info as the one on enwiki, but maybe not - so the second alternative is a probably loss in information, and maybe even adding bad information. The last alternative is a simple loss of information.

A related question: are we as translators free to add links to Wikipedia articles to explain concepts in the text that they feel needs explaining? What concepts needs an explanation might well vary between languages. In this case, one translator added a link to the article copyleft on Swedish Wikipedia, in the section "Permissible restrictions". If we should not add links in this way - could concepts like copyleft be explained on this wiki? // habj 02:41, 24 February 2007 (CET)