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::I think we should avoid "free expression" - while free content/software can be seen as an extension of freedom of expression/speech the reverse isn't necesarily true: you can have freedom of speech/expression without free content. It also sounds a bit grandiose. --[[User:Rgladwell|Ricardo Gladwell]] 21:58, 6 May 2006 (CEST) | ::I think we should avoid "free expression" - while free content/software can be seen as an extension of freedom of expression/speech the reverse isn't necesarily true: you can have freedom of speech/expression without free content. It also sounds a bit grandiose. --[[User:Rgladwell|Ricardo Gladwell]] 21:58, 6 May 2006 (CEST) | ||
== Paths of naming == | == Paths of naming == | ||
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:::::I'd have to agree with Mia in that I find it particularly problematic to propose a dichotomy between artistic and functional works, and the examples that demonstrate the difficulty in doing so are plentiful. I also agree that in the interest of unity and simplicity, it makes sense to go with a single term that would hopefully stick. I'm personally not crazy about the term "content" for the various reasons elaborated above, but then again, if we don't like the use of the word, why not take it back and modify the meaning to something we do like? All in all, if we are looking to build a movement and not just a definition, I think we'll need a single, unified concept to do so. Furthermore, to separate "artistic" from "functional" works appears to single out different classes of works that I think it would be to our benefit, despite the seemingly overarching nature, to group together.--[[User:Elizabeth stark|Elizabeth stark]] 08:24, 8 May 2006 (CEST) | :::::I'd have to agree with Mia in that I find it particularly problematic to propose a dichotomy between artistic and functional works, and the examples that demonstrate the difficulty in doing so are plentiful. I also agree that in the interest of unity and simplicity, it makes sense to go with a single term that would hopefully stick. I'm personally not crazy about the term "content" for the various reasons elaborated above, but then again, if we don't like the use of the word, why not take it back and modify the meaning to something we do like? All in all, if we are looking to build a movement and not just a definition, I think we'll need a single, unified concept to do so. Furthermore, to separate "artistic" from "functional" works appears to single out different classes of works that I think it would be to our benefit, despite the seemingly overarching nature, to group together.--[[User:Elizabeth stark|Elizabeth stark]] 08:24, 8 May 2006 (CEST) | ||
--RufusPollock 8 May 2006 (thought I'd posted this 5 May 2006 but there must have been a problem). | |||
My 2 cents (see also previous discussion related to merging of FCED and Open Knowledge Definition http://freecontentdefinition.org/index.php?title=Open_Knowledge_Definition): | |||
My 2 cents (see also previous discussion related to merging of FCED and Open Knowledge Definition | |||
# Expression should be left out (inherently more complex and more controversial to define free expression than free content/open knowledge) | # Expression should be left out (inherently more complex and more controversial to define free expression than free content/open knowledge) | ||
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* Free Content and Open Knowledge Definition (broader) | * Free Content and Open Knowledge Definition (broader) | ||
* Free Content Definition or Open Content Definition (narrower) | * Free Content Definition or Open Content Definition (narrower) | ||
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: I tend to be partial to "Free Culture Definition" as well for various reasons, the most important being that "Free Culture" is a) reasonably unique, b) a term nobody seems to have any objections to. I'm seeing a few objections to "Free Expression", so that part of the name will probably have to go in any case. I'm going to prepare a draft set of poll options so we can start making some progress towards a resolution.--[[User:Erik Möller|Erik Möller]] 00:50, 10 May 2006 (CEST) | : I tend to be partial to "Free Culture Definition" as well for various reasons, the most important being that "Free Culture" is a) reasonably unique, b) a term nobody seems to have any objections to. I'm seeing a few objections to "Free Expression", so that part of the name will probably have to go in any case. I'm going to prepare a draft set of poll options so we can start making some progress towards a resolution.--[[User:Erik Möller|Erik Möller]] 00:50, 10 May 2006 (CEST) | ||