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Salut . Juste une idée sur les boutons : S'il vous plaît de le rendre plus international, à l'aide de symboles au lieu de texte (comme l'attribution , partage à l'identique ) . Regards - [ [ Utilisateur: 77.234.80.162 | 77.234.80.162 ] ] 23:18 , 16 Février 2007 ( CET )
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Hi. Just an idea about the buttons: Please make it more international, by using symbols instead of text (like Attribution, Share-Alike). Regards--[[User:77.234.80.162|77.234.80.162]] 23:18, 16 February 2007 (CET)
  
Faut-il éviter la duplication Creative Commons travail? - et se concentrer sur les icones pour voir libre / contenu libre ? - par exemple, CC-By et du domaine public sont sans doute non-free/libre - à la fois permettre aux œuvres dérivées ( telles que les traductions et localisations ) d'être rejetée dans plus de licences restrictives . [ [ Utilisateur: | Ktucker Kim ] ] 13:48 , 5 Mars 2007 ( CET )
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Should we avoid duplicating Creative Commons work? - and focus on icons for free/libre content? - e.g. CC-By and Public Domain are arguably non-free/libre - as both allow derived works (such as translations and localisations) to be released under more restrictive licenses. [[User:Ktucker|Kim]] 13:48, 5 March 2007 (CET)
  
: Je suis en désaccord . Il n'y a pas plus haut degré de liberté que l'absence de droit d'auteur. Pour faire valoir que les œuvres de Shakespeare ne sont pas '' libre '' parce qu'ils ne sont pas sous une licence copyleft est bizarre pour moi. Cela est également conforme à la [ [ définition] ] , qui permet le copyleft, mais ne l'exige pas .--[[ utilisateur: Erik Möller | Erik Möller ] ] 15:45 , 5 Mars 2007 ( CET )
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: I strongly disagree. There is no higher degree of freedom than the absence of copyright. To argue that the works of Shakespeare are not ''libre'' because they are not under a copyleft license is bizarre to me. This is also in line with the [[definition]], which permits copyleft, but does not require it.--[[User:Erik Möller|Erik Möller]] 15:45, 5 March 2007 (CET)
  
Erik Merci . Quelques remarques : [ [Discussion du copyleft ] ]
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Thanks Erik. Some comments: [[Discussion of copyleft]]
  
Réflexion sur les boutons == ==
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== Thinking About Buttons ==
  
Les boutons , à mon avis, encore besoin d'un peu plus de travail . Ce que nous devons faire est de fournir du code HTML par lequel les gens peuvent comprendre les boutons sur leurs sites . Cette HTML doit inclure un lien vers le bouton , ce qui est assez facile , mais elle doit également inclure les mesures nécessaires RDF et un lien , quelque part en arrière à l'acte sur le site CC . Cela devrait être , je crois, en plus '' ''pour le lien vers une page de licence spécifique dans notre wiki . Je pense que nous devrions faire est de créer une carte image avec une petite zone ( il pourrait même s'agir d'un couple de pixels ) que les liens vers le site du CC et le reste peut lier à nous .
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The buttons, in my opinion, still need a little more work. What we need to do is provide some HTML through which people can include the buttons on their sites. This HTML needs to include a link to the button, which is easy enough, but it should also include the necessary RDF and a link, somewhere back to the deed on the CC site. This should be, I think, in ''addition'' to the link to a license-specific page in our wiki. I'm thinking what we should do is create an image map with a small area (it could even just be a couple pixels) that links to the CC site and the rest can link to us.
  
Il est [ http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2007-February/001569.html a] thread qui s'est passé sur le http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/ [ ] CC- Communauté liste de diffusion qui mérite d'être lu par rapport au premier . Le fil a également soulevé quelques questions intéressantes sur les icônes sur l'utilisation de CC au lieu des lettres que je crois vraiment que nous devrions faire. Si quelqu'un peut aider avec les boutons de la nouvelle , je pourrais probablement s'asseoir et esquisser une sorte de solution en termes de cartes sur l'image . [ [ Utilisateur : Benjamin Mako Hill | Benjamin Mako Hill ] ] 22:22 , 8 avril 2007 ( CEST )
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There is [http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2007-February/001569.html a thread] that happened on the [http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/ CC-Community mailing list] that is worth reading over first. The thread also raised some interesting issues about about using the CC icons instead of the letters which I definitely think we should do. If someone can help with the the new buttons, I could probably sit down and hack out some sort of solution in terms of the image maps. [[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|Benjamin Mako Hill]] 22:22, 8 April 2007 (CEST)
  
 
== MediaWiki ==
 
== MediaWiki ==
  
Vous devriez obtenir ces mises en MediaWiki, et lorsque les administrateurs démarrer leur wiki , créer une façon pour eux de choisir entre les logos , ainsi que la licence. [ [ Utilisateur: 59.167.75.42 | 59.167.75.42 ] ] 04:21 , 17 avril 2007 ( CEST )
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You should get these put into MediaWiki, and when administrators start up their wiki, create a way for them to choose between the logos, as well as the license. [[User:59.167.75.42|59.167.75.42]] 04:21, 17 April 2007 (CEST)
  
Galerie == ==
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== Gallery ==
  
Salut, Quelqu'un at-il une idée pourquoi <nowiki> <gallery perrow="3"> < / gallery > < / nowiki > ne fonctionne pas ici? --'''[[ utilisateur: Kjoonlee | Kjoon ]]'''[[ Utilisateur: | Kjoonlee Lee ] ] 20:50 , 18 Juin 2007 ( CEST )
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Hi, does anyone have an idea why <nowiki><gallery perrow="3"></gallery></nowiki> doesn't work here? --'''[[User:Kjoonlee|Kjoon]]'''[[User talk:Kjoonlee|lee]] 20:50, 18 June 2007 (CEST)
: C'est peut-être en raison de différences de version .. Le Wikipédia anglais utilise 1.11alpha MediaWiki ( r22970 ) et " Perrow "soutient là, mais ce site utilise 1.9.0 . --'''[[ utilisateur: Kjoonlee | Kjoon ]]'''[[ Utilisateur: | Kjoonlee Lee ] ] 19:50 , 22 Juin 2007 ( CEST )
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:Maybe it's due to version differences.. The English Wikipedia uses MediaWiki 1.11alpha (r22970) and "perrow" is supported there, but this site uses 1.9.0. --'''[[User:Kjoonlee|Kjoon]]'''[[User talk:Kjoonlee|lee]] 19:50, 22 June 2007 (CEST)
  
== Traitement des chances pour les "PD" s'il vous plaît. ==
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== Equal treatement for "PD" please. ==
  
Serait-il trop de peine à poser les boutons avec «PD» dans les lettres de même taille que les autres boutons ont ( et peut-être «domaine public» ci-dessous il y en petits caractères pour certaines variantes , comme il en existe pour les autres) . Aucune raison de ne pas avoir un tel . Les plus courants avec le public et le domaine dans la même taille sur des lignes différentes s'annonce très occupé pour moi. - [ [ Utilisateur: Cimon Avaro | Cimon Avaro ] ] 12:26 , 10 Juillet 2007 ( CEST )
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Would it be too much trouble to ask for buttons with "PD" in the same size letters as the other buttons have (and perhaps "Public Domain" underneath there in small print for some variants, like there are for the others). No reason to not have such. The current ones with Public and Domain in same size on different rows looks very busy to me. -- [[User:Cimon Avaro|Cimon Avaro]] 12:26, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
  
Une version SVG serait aussi belle ... nous avons pu développer nos propres variantes / couleurs / tailles .
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An svg version would also be nice ... we could develop our own variants/colors/sizes.
Est-ce exister? ou devrais-je (ou un vrai artiste ) m'essayer au traçage dans Inkscape à nouveau ?
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Does this exist? or should I (or a real artist) try my hand at tracing in Inkscape again?
- [ [ Utilisateur: Inkwina | Inkwina ] ] 12:38 , 10 Juillet 2007 ( CEST )
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--[[User:Inkwina|Inkwina]] 12:38, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
  
Licence == de boutons ? ==
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== License of buttons? ==
  
Je vois que le logo principal et la première série de boutons sont PD , mais les autres n'ont pas d'informations de licence. Suis-je juste de supposer qu'ils sont CC-BY -2.5 ? - [[Special: Contributions/76.102.125.125 | 76.102.125.125 ] ] 19:25 , 1 mai 2010 ( UTC )
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I see that the main logo and first set of buttons are PD but the rest have no license info. Am I just to assume they are CC-BY-2.5? --[[Special:Contributions/76.102.125.125|76.102.125.125]] 19:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
  
== == CC0
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== CC0 ==
  
CC0 (Creative Commons Zero ) boutons sont nécessaires . CC0 est une dédicace du domaine public ainsi que d'une licence très simple sans aucune exigence . Celle-ci est pour les pays qui n'acceptent pas les dédicaces PD . - [ [ Utilisateur: Sloyment | Sloyment ] ] 13:35 , 18 mai 2010 ( UTC )
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CC0 (Creative Commons Zero) buttons are needed. CC0 is a Public Domain dedication plus a very simple license without any requirements. The latter is for jurisdictions that don't accept PD dedications. -- [[User:Sloyment|Sloyment]] 13:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. Just an idea about the buttons: Please make it more international, by using symbols instead of text (like Attribution, Share-Alike). Regards--77.234.80.162 23:18, 16 February 2007 (CET)

Should we avoid duplicating Creative Commons work? - and focus on icons for free/libre content? - e.g. CC-By and Public Domain are arguably non-free/libre - as both allow derived works (such as translations and localisations) to be released under more restrictive licenses. Kim 13:48, 5 March 2007 (CET)

I strongly disagree. There is no higher degree of freedom than the absence of copyright. To argue that the works of Shakespeare are not libre because they are not under a copyleft license is bizarre to me. This is also in line with the definition, which permits copyleft, but does not require it.--Erik Möller 15:45, 5 March 2007 (CET)

Thanks Erik. Some comments: Discussion of copyleft

Thinking About Buttons

The buttons, in my opinion, still need a little more work. What we need to do is provide some HTML through which people can include the buttons on their sites. This HTML needs to include a link to the button, which is easy enough, but it should also include the necessary RDF and a link, somewhere back to the deed on the CC site. This should be, I think, in addition to the link to a license-specific page in our wiki. I'm thinking what we should do is create an image map with a small area (it could even just be a couple pixels) that links to the CC site and the rest can link to us.

There is a thread that happened on the CC-Community mailing list that is worth reading over first. The thread also raised some interesting issues about about using the CC icons instead of the letters which I definitely think we should do. If someone can help with the the new buttons, I could probably sit down and hack out some sort of solution in terms of the image maps. Benjamin Mako Hill 22:22, 8 April 2007 (CEST)

MediaWiki

You should get these put into MediaWiki, and when administrators start up their wiki, create a way for them to choose between the logos, as well as the license. 59.167.75.42 04:21, 17 April 2007 (CEST)

Gallery

Hi, does anyone have an idea why <gallery perrow="3"></gallery> doesn't work here? --Kjoonlee 20:50, 18 June 2007 (CEST)

Maybe it's due to version differences.. The English Wikipedia uses MediaWiki 1.11alpha (r22970) and "perrow" is supported there, but this site uses 1.9.0. --Kjoonlee 19:50, 22 June 2007 (CEST)

Equal treatement for "PD" please.

Would it be too much trouble to ask for buttons with "PD" in the same size letters as the other buttons have (and perhaps "Public Domain" underneath there in small print for some variants, like there are for the others). No reason to not have such. The current ones with Public and Domain in same size on different rows looks very busy to me. -- Cimon Avaro 12:26, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

An svg version would also be nice ... we could develop our own variants/colors/sizes. Does this exist? or should I (or a real artist) try my hand at tracing in Inkscape again? --Inkwina 12:38, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

License of buttons?

I see that the main logo and first set of buttons are PD but the rest have no license info. Am I just to assume they are CC-BY-2.5? --76.102.125.125 19:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

CC0

CC0 (Creative Commons Zero) buttons are needed. CC0 is a Public Domain dedication plus a very simple license without any requirements. The latter is for jurisdictions that don't accept PD dedications. -- Sloyment 13:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)